In attendance:
Ward Foley | AAC
Rick Curl | CUBU
| Kerry Ellett | CUBU
| Rodger McCoy | DCPR
| Kerstin Severin | HACC
| Dan Jacobs | MACH
| Dave Tonnesen | OCCS
| Mark Eldridge | RMSC
| Todd Benedick | RMSC
| Victor Abrahamian | VSC
| George Massey | YORK
| Thirl Crudup | PVS
| Matt Dugan | PVS
| Jim Garner | PVS
| John Hirschmann | PVS
| Linda Klopfenstein | PVS
| Bill Marlin | PVS
| Bob Walker | PVS
| Greg York | PVS
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Called to order - 7:50
Approval of the Winter Competition Committee Minutes
Approved as presented
Bob Walker instructed both committees to email the office official proposals one to two weeks prior to the Fall CCM so they could be distributed to encourage input form member clubs/coaches
Notes from the Eastern Zone MeetingThe following dates and locations for meets have been set
SCY Zones for 2003 - March 27-29 2003 will be in NJ at GCITSCY Speedo Championship Series (sectionals) March 20-23, 2003 in NJ at GCIT.
The following meets will be bid at the Zone meeting in September in Dallas, TX during the United States Aquatic Sports convention.
The following changes to the Zone Meet format (both SC and LC) were proposed and acted upon as noted.
Zone Meets the Boys 12 & Under cuts will be equivalent to the girls 12 & under cuts effective this year for the long course meet in Buffalo.
A vote will be taken after reviewing this season's LCM SCS meets to be determine if one Super Sectional for the whole Eastern Zone should be held. This vote will occur at the Zone meeting in September in Dallas.
Changes to PVS meet format that will be recommended as a result of these actions:
Kerry Ellett provided the following information, based primarily on the USA Swimming Board meeting in early May: Governance Study - on web might want to look at it. Will have a profound effect on the way USA Swimming at all levels (including the LSC's) is run.
Things went well at SC Eastern Zone Championship meet, kids swam well, first time we traveled in a while, article is posted on the web page, fun to travel we came in second.
Selection of the LC Zone Team Head and Assistant Head Coaches
Nominations for Head and Assistant Head Coach for LC 2002
Head Coach
George Massey - approved
Assistant Head Coach
Dave Kraft - approved
Remaining Staff to be selected at the LC championship meetsTwo 13 & over coaches will be selected at Sr Champs and two 12 & under at AG champs.
The Committee endorsed the calendar as provided by the Administrative Office Office (see attached.)
The Committee also endorsed Chris Huott's possible Long Course meets if all required information is received.
Bob Walker requested that John Hirschmann to look at possible format changes in events to accommodate the additional events and to work with George Massey on the three opens. Discussion followed and John suggested we attempt to get Friday night water for the January Open as well. Irene Millman responded that she would look into it and see what could be done at this late date. Bob Walker commented that if we can offer at least at the two open meets before the championships that would be good. Vote to add Friday to Jan Open if available. PASSED
Kirstin Severin asked the committee to approve if she could get the water a Friday night session for her Harvest Moon Meet in October. Passed
Old BusinessJohn B resigned as Distance Coordinator. Bob Walker advised that Rod Montrie is the new Open Water Coordinator.
John Hirschmann asked about Open Water Coordinator. Bob Walker responded that John Blaschke is still in that position.
John Hirschmann shared with the Committee that entries for the 2003 EZ SC Championship meet will be accepted through 1pm on Tuesday. The meet starts on Thursday. This means team participation will have to be done very quickly if PVS wishes to use the Sectional meet on the prior weekend as meet from which "best times" will be accepted for team selection purposes.
Mark Eldridge brought up concerns about selecting the 14 & under team at the end of JO's. Discussion followed. Greg York stated that we should select the 13 -14 swimmer at the JO Championship since that is their culminating meet. This would give them a meet three weeks out of zones and avoid swimming at sectionals and then swim again at zones a few days later. Mark disagreed and stated that the 13-14 should swim at sectionals since this is for some their culminating meet. Further discussion continued regarding the logistic of putting a zone team together and how to get all the contact information to the Zone team manager.
Mark Eldridge moved that the 12 & Unders be selected at PVS 14/U JO meet and that the 13 & Over would be selected off the Senior Champs meet. Fastest times from September 1, 2002 would be used. Passed
Ward Foley moved to amend the previously passed motion pertaining to how the 13 & over team will be selected. - 13 &14 y/o swimmers be selected at the end of JO. 15-18 y/o to be selected at the end of the Speedo Championship Series - Passed 7 -3
The application process was discussed at great length. Bob Walker, George Massey and Linda Crudup will work on improving it.
Changes of the PVS MEET FORMATBill Marlin asked coaches present about adding the 500 FREE FOR 10 & UNDER to the distance meets - discussion followed and Mark Eldridge commented that he did not think this was feasible, but the new distance coordinator should look into it. It was further commented that we have a hard enough time finding water - evidenced by no water for one day of the February Distance meet. Adding an event would make it more difficult. The suggestion was withdrawn.
Kerry Ellett expressed concerned over the QT for the new events and that the QT across the board need to be adjusted to keep the championship meets to a reasonable time line.
Motion to Add the 10 & Under 400/500 free and 11-12 200 Back, Breast and Fly to the PVS open. AG I and II LC and both SC and LC Age Group Championship meets. Passed
Bob Walker amended his previous committee to include Dave Tonnesen and himself to work with John Hirschmann and George Massey on reformatting the event order to include this event.
Greg York made the following motion that SCY champs 2003 will have NFT Qt to sectionals and the age groups be amended to 15 & over.
Discussion - Bob Walker felt the 15 & overs swim a lot at this time of year and this would give them a true culminating together going to one meet top end sections kids can then swim sectional meets and at Zones. Making the SCY meet more like the former JR Champs meet of two winters ago. Further discussion continued regarding who should be included or excluded from what meet and what different coaches or clubs use as their culminating meets.
Greg York indicated he is in support of the meet format change and stated that HS kids swim too many meets. If a club wants to have super fast swims then let a club run a fast meet, too many used it as a tune up and not a real championship meet.
Question called whether SCY would be a 15 & over meet to with cuts to sectionals with no bottom cut. Motion Failed
Jim Garner stated that he had been asked to split the SCY Champs back to the previous Jr and Sr champs for 2004 season. He will report to the committee at the fall CCM.
Next Meeting
The Committee agreed to set the Fall CCM Date as
Saturday, September 21, 2002 @ 10 am River Falls.
Adjourned at 10:33pm